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Emet-Selch ([personal profile] amaure) wrote in [community profile] victory_road2020-08-22 11:32 pm

No Romo (closed)

Who: Dirk Strider and Emet-Selch
Where: Goldenrod, at an upscale restaurant, then maybe around the town, who knows
When: August 23rd
Summary: The boyfriends going on a not!date. Shenanigans.
Rating: PG-ish. Dirk's got a potty mouth, but it's also them, so I'll update as needs be.


It's been a week since Emet-Selch's unfortunate nap that allowed him to live our the imminent disappointment that he was otherwise spared upon his arrival to this laughably absurd world. Fortunately, he isn't one to stay idle for long in his despair, despite how much he might otherwise wish he could. So, instead, while he has indeed placed energies in brainstorming what this world means, and what the transplants here might be, he has also decided his energies would be better spent on someone more deserving of them.

Particularly his ever loyal lover that saw fit to remain at his side, exhausted with worry and sleeplessness. Surely, he showed his appreciation for it, but he is not a man to only dote in direct exchange. Nay, he ever enjoys continued intimacy and attention, and all of that aside, he figures it only right to indulge for the two of them.

As such, he's brought Dirk along to a rather extravagant Japanese restaurant, though he'd name it Hingan in style. It is all roughly equivalent, and even then this world names it more Johtonian. Regardless of distinction, he has more than caught on to Dirk's general affection towards the style, and so it is with that in mind that he has picked their place of dining. So too has he been mindful of Dirk's preference for the more private, and so they'll find themselves being seated at a private room.

Emet has dressed himself in far less flashy attire, decidedly masculine in style. Another decision made for Dirk's benefit. No one can claim he is not thoughtful, nor charitable! As he takes his seat, he offers Dirk a warm smile—a genuine one. One that has not truly graced his features in a few days as he's left himself tired and stressed overthinking everything that his 'update' of sorts has given him. But this isn't about that, this is about them.

A small fraction of time to themselves, away from work, away from the stresses of their continued existence outside of each other's company, away from everyone else...

"I do so hope this will appeal to your tastes, after all, you do seem to favor that of Hingan persuasion, and I find myself of a similar fancy." He doesn't comment on how Dirk looks arguably Hingan—or perhaps Doman—himself. It matters little, and he knows the distinction is different between worlds. Idly, he wonders what his own features translates to Dirk, perhaps he looks...Greek, was it? An entertaining if admittedly a pointless train of thought.
uber_marionettist: (Ever on and on I continue circling)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-08-25 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
Dirk knows he has a reputation. If he's not being characterised as a prude or a mouth-breathing nerd or a relentless manbaby, he's usually regarded as something akin to an untamed animal instead. He knows this because he actually reads the conversations on the Rocket community network. Even the ones he doesn't participate in.

Especially the ones he doesn't participate in.

It doesn't bother him any. Taking the piss out of Dirk Strider is how people reduce him to something digestible. The reality is just too unpalatable for them, too intimidating, too incomprehensible to the common man. They catch a glimpse of the whole elephant and they just can't take it. Crafting his own character, given time and an audience, is pretty simple for that exact reason.

Hades needs a lot less hand-holding, a lot less scripting. Well, okay. So there's still scripting. It's just a very different script. One that Dirk really thought he'd packed up and put away for good.

It's been years since he played a character who dressed up and went out and had a conversation over dinner that wasn't goal oriented or a performance towards unspoken goals of a different calibre.

".....well, you got me read," it's not entirely a joke about the meta. Hades has him dead to rights. And Dirk's got to admit he's looking 'a real treat,' as some would say... or as he might say, serving up some choice looks in that honest-to-Yours Truly suit.

"Is Hingan a culture that originated from one of the sundered reality fragments?"

The topic is just a bit of a gamble, though admittedly less of one when Hades brought it up himself. Dirk just never knows how questions like that will go over until he goes ahead and asks them.

He's legitimately curious, though. How could he not be? That one of the many worlds and realities shattered out of Hades' one would eventually go on to recreate Japan seems obvious to him. Even Alternia had a separate Eastern subculture with its own arts and aesthetics very familiar to anyone who's ever popped in an anime DVD or cracked open a manga.
uber_marionettist: (Your overbearing best friend)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-08-29 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Dirk's rule of thumb in a restaurant like this was always just to follow the waiter and/or Jake--or rather, in this case, Hades. His understanding of the social rules isn't actually terrible, but it's better not to get too ahead of himself. No, this doesn't strike him as exactly the kind of time or place where opening your menu too soon is actually a faux pas, but those places do exist, and if he's going to make that kind of 'mistake,' he'd rather do it on purpose--or at least brazenly enough to defy challenge.

"Christ. If anything, this place's sole redeeming virtue is its similarity to a country back on original Earth. Japan has some similarities with Higanshi... linguistically as well as culturally and historically, from the sounds of it."

He leans back slightly, though not too far--there's nothing to lean against, of course--and he gestures loosely with one hand.

Which quickly shifts into Dirk leaning a bit forward instead, and gesturing with both hands.

"...right up to and including that isolationist policy and single port city. And yet it still found the time to be an artistic and cultural epicentre--producing works that revolutionised and resonated with the world right up until the end times. The first novel was even written in Japan. The most globally significant artistic movement and genre was called anime, though, which evolved from and adjacent to a print medium called manga."
Edited 2020-08-29 05:10 (UTC)
uber_marionettist: (Hoping for some attention)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-08-30 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
"Manga is a culturally specific form of the sequential arts. Like a comic book or 'graphic novel'--" Dirk makes air quotes around that one.

"Obviously, there's a kind of specifity involved. Like the depth and breadth of subject matter, as well as the distinctive processes, tools, and symbols, and stylings unique to Japanese art--including a number of distinct genres that exist nowhere else. But what really grew out of manga was an entirely new lexicon of appetites and aesthetics for understanding the human condition--a visual and thematic codice, crafting a unique lens through which to illustrate the ideals, experiences, fantasies, and realities of its artists and audiences. The world as reflected in the mirror of manga was concise and yet flawed, complex and yet consistently patterned."

He pauses there, actually taking up his menu. Knowing that Hades is actually interested, that he isn't losing him just by talking, is exciting. It's easy to get caught up in it.

"Take gap moe. The Muse is a rotten plagiarist, just so you know, I taught her that. And she can't even use it properly, because she doesn't understand it. Not that I would expect a Cherub to understand something like that. But it's the perfect example. Of course, gap moe is itself derived from moe, which is the powerful emotional response elicited by various childlike qualities, such as cuteness and innocence. With moe, intense feelings of affection, desire, physicality, and even protectiveness or possessiveness can all be evoked by a single image or character."
Edited 2020-08-30 04:10 (UTC)
uber_marionettist: (I fell under your control)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-08-30 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It used to be that Dirk took any opportunity to talk about these things because no one was going to ask for it anyway. And with one exception, this is still true.

The exception is, of course, Hades. Hades not only asks, but he listens and he learns. And that alone would have been rewarding enough, but with all Hades has been and seen and done, how close he is to Dirk's own character, how consistently he anticipates Dirk now, it's... thrilling, also, to not only pique Hades's curiosity and hold his interest, just by saying what he would have anyway, but to really contribute that way.

"I wouldn't call it a colloquialism, no. The appeal of moe is not exclusive to fiction, that's just where you find its idealised or perfect form. Any negativity or condescension directed towards moe is implied to be a form of jealousy because it's not about age, it's about character. Anyone can have a cute or innocent kind of charm, and that's true in real life, too."
uber_marionettist: (Every man is king)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-05 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
"Usually manga gets its own section or sections in book stores, so if you're not looking for it, you probably wouldn't find it..."

The pause is distracted, not dramatic; he's actually making an attempt to look at the menu for longer than half a second. He'd gotten as far as realising this was full-on kaiseki (and would therefore take more than that half-second of attention) before now; he doesn't want to make Hades wait for the next thirty minutes while he explains television programming. Not when he knows that a break in the conversation doesn't necessarily mean losing his platform.
uber_marionettist: (Your everlasting talk-show host)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-08 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
"Good news. Japanese--or Higanshi, or Johtonian--food is almost custom made for me." It's not a brag, but it isn't not one, either.

"I know it's mostly coincidental, you don't have to remind me. But when it comes to me, nothing's really coincidental. Either way, cut out the red meat and I can eat almost anything on the menu."

This is still a bit of an obstacle. The right cut of beef--or whatever sourceless red meat their steak is made from--is still considered high class, and this is a classy place.
uber_marionettist: (But with my head)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-08 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
".... just for future reference, what's the shortlist of things you do object to outright?"

Not that he's changing the subject, but he knows surprisingly little of what Hades 'prefers' in a food sense. Outside of anything attributable to what he would have once called 'Greek' culture and Hythlodaeus and Hades now have him calling 'Amaurotine.'

Not that he hasn't been paying attention--he has. He always does. But it's not like they're fucking married, they don't eat together every single day or anything. He can pick up on a pattern, yeah, but he's not exactly had the time or opportunity to rule out every ingredient on the planet.

"Wait, are you one of those people who can't eat cilantro? Or are atavistic quirks like that too retrogenetic for the Amaurotine people?"
uber_marionettist: (Let that be a lesson to me)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
".....huh. You know, I don't know what I was expecting the answer to be, but that ain't it." Dirk sits back a little, thoughtful.

"I can see it, though. Eating the same things every day, texturally.... the same monotone palette of flavourlessness in an endless, gruelling montage."

He's just describing his diet growing up, and they both know it.

Fish. Seaweeds. Eggs, stolen from the gulls at great personal risk.

Raw, boiled, grilled, dried, and/or (eventually, with practise) pickled or fermented.

At least there always orange soda.

He doesn't remember remember it, of course, but he can recall the impressions of that experience; not so much the first time he got the crawlspace door open and dropped like forty-something plastic bottles of orange liquid directly on his stubborn toddler head, but the part that came after, when the first drops of that sugar and corn syrup explosion of colour hit his tongue, thicker than water and warmed by the relentless sun and inescapable humidity of Atlantean Texas.

By the time he was old enough to figure out that flavours like that once existed in abundance, the taste and mouthfeel of four-centuries-flat orange soda was indelibly scored into his brain as the rewarding peak of gustatory experiences.

"Damn. And here I'd been led to believe there existed no man capable of resisting the siren song of good old-fashioned mashed potatoes. Mark that one down as only lie my Bro ever told."
uber_marionettist: (But with my head)

tfw you know a character splices commas in a certain way,

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-12 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Really? Popotoes?

Dirk doesn't get a chance to rag on Hades for that one, though, because Hades' expression--indeed, his whole fucking body--shifts from 'conversational' to 'Dirk just implied something heinous about the use of a holiday turkey.'

He takes a moment to give the reason for that its due consideration. Then, in a perfect deadpan (marred only slightly by the half-second's quirk of the left side of his mouth), he answers.

"Depends. Is gravy a seasoning? I classify it as a condiment, myself."
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[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-12 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
The waiter's interruption is timely--not only because Hades' reaction to his potato-centric half-joke is so excessive that if he didn't know better (and he does), he'd be willing to believe Hades was having a little fun at his expense. As it is, he's the one reaping all the comedy potential of this situation, a potential made all the richer for his recognition of the fact that the most galling answer possible is just God's truth.

To his credit: he gives the waiter a chance to leave before placing one elbow on the table, resting his chin in his palm thoughtfully.

"I'm pretty sure there was some salt in there, but I couldn't tell you with any degree of certainty whether that was the potatoes--sorry, the popotoes--or the gravy."
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[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-12 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
The truth is, as they say, complicated.

Dirk is nothing if not bold. At times he's genuinely motivated, other times it's more about the performance, but when combined with a contrary and independent disposition, he often gives the impression of being a man who will do or say or try literally anything.

On the other hand, the world he grew into and the world he filled with himself (or rather, his selves) suffocated and smothered him. And combined with the overthinking endemic to his neuropathological blueprint, this frequently makes the truly adventurous an overwhelming near-impossibility.

Individual experiences (chocolate chip cookies, carbonated cola, flat cola, his first hamburger, a single peppermint, and so on) are tackled and conquered with relative ease. (For good or for ill: many of the aforementioned experiments were found not worth repeating.) The first time he attempted to navigate a grocery store, on the other hand, was a disaster that ended with a 32-text queue for Jake to wake up to and no breakfast cereal purchased that day.

Which was disappointing on multiple levels, as the aforementioned cereal was the only thing he was there to purchase at all.

At the end of the day, he knows his eating habits have been a source of dismay to a lot of people in his life. Almost everyone, in fact. And usually it's his willingness to eat what they deem inedible. So Hades' reaction, while dramatic, is very much something Dirk is used to.

"After watching your reactions here, I don't think I have a choice. I didn't think my personal history with potatoes was going to break you like that. Kinda feeling like I need to make it up to you... if that entails eating Amaurotine-grade mashed potatoes, then I guess I'm eating Amaurotine-grade mashed potatoes."

Is now a bad time to share the fact that the combination of potatoes and butter together is a nutritionally complete food source?

Wait. He sits back up a little.

"...that reminds me. Not to. Uh. Change the subject on you," he waves his left hand in the air as though to illustrate... nothing, really, "but I had a question about Hythlodaeus."

There's a chain of logic jumps behind this, but explaining it would take more work than simply ignoring it.
uber_marionettist: (Ever on and on I continue circling)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-12 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Dirk already regrets bringing this up. There is absolutely no good way to approach this. He can't even frame it as a joke, it's just too fucking weird. Which is the joke, or would be, if he tried to make it one--it's just fucking bad. But now that he's halted everything else to start it, cancelling it would be even worse. Nothing to do but plow forward.

"I don't really need or want to have a whole conversation about his psychopathology--or mine, trust me, I've been psychoanalysed back and forth by Rose plenty, entirely for the gag. But he tried to pull me into some kind of conversation about having antisocial personality disorder in between pressuring me to knead the bread dough for him. Which sounds exactly as fucked up described as it was to experience."
uber_marionettist: (Let that be a lesson to me)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-12 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Good fucking question.

"Man, I don't even know. Is he. Christ. Is he... okay? Like. This is normal? Good. Fine. Great, even. I can deal with that. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He's stacking all these psych textbooks and diagnostic manuals, but if he's like you and I, then there's no way it's remotely applicable to the actual function of his brain."

I don't want him trying to psychoanalyse me, Dirk doesn't say.

He knows perfectly where that there are theorists out there, hypotheses and suggestions made more in seriousness and less in jest than the author will let on. Fans of his. 'Fans' of his. So it wouldn't--shouldn't--bother him even if Hythlodaeus did try.

But, well. What can he say? He just really hates guessing games. Especially when he's not been invited.
uber_marionettist: (Should I run a million miles)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-13 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Dirk trusts Hades to answer him--not just absorb and move past it, but actually answer--so while there's always a dose of apprehension, a tension that builds in the back of his mind while he waits for a response, he has little difficulty showing patience in the pensive moments after the short acknowledgement.

"... gotcha." The first half of the answer was technically what Dirk had asked, but it wasn't anything he couldn't have figured out on his own, either. The second half, though... makes sense in a way that comes with a moment of rueful silence.

"I don't think he was getting the answers he wanted. Not from me, anyway."
uber_marionettist: (Ever on and on I continue circling)

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-14 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, Christ. If this conversation is a train wreck, he's tied to the tracks two feet from the smouldering wreckage, breathing smoke and listening to the screams, just waiting for the engine to blow and put him out of his misery.

"....what if we order food and then resume this one. Or we can talk about anime, I didn't actually get to that. We got sidetracked onto pota--popatoes."
uber_marionettist: (Because he's racing and pacing)

Gets distracted by mid 2000s furry techno

[personal profile] uber_marionettist 2020-09-15 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Dirk tries not to be extremely aware of himself and his life history both when he orders a course that's mostly pescetarian; he also tries not to worry about the specificity of ordering a course with pork shabu shabu, which is obviously not fish.

Theoretically, he's aware that the whole ordeal of ordering anything is entirely in his head; concretely, he's aware that his order being completely normal and Emet taking notice are two conditions that can coexist.

He doesn't really care what the waiter thinks.

Once menus are handed back and the waiter is gone, he waits a beat--just one--before speaking again.

"So, what'll it be?" Topic-wise, not food-wise. He just heard Emet order his food. He doesn't need a recap.